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[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39358&forum=8&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=8#forumpost466058 jkonstan 070826 21:23]<br>
 
[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39358&forum=8&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=8#forumpost466058 jkonstan 070826 21:23]<br>
 
external CBT16245 level shifters
 
external CBT16245 level shifters
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[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41728&forum=8#forumpost484540 TobiFlex 071126 13:49]
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:TobiFlex releases his [http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41728&forum=8#forumpost484540 TG68] MC68000 project source code in [[VHDL]]. With a size of 3000 lines.
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:"The Kernal is 2x-3x faster then the 68000 with the same clock and you can clock them with 28MHz.
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I think it is possible to make the minimig 8x-12x faster then the original."
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:Is there any attempt to make the instruction timings the same as the original 68k?
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::Most of the byte and word instructions are exact. Long and mulu/divu/rotation instructions are faster.
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:The MC68EC000 is different from the 68000. I have my Core let run against a real MC68HC000 and can not :find software differences when the Kickstart or some programms are running. So I know all importand :Instructions works correct. About never used Instructions I can not say anything.
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:Example: I have found no program for the AMIGA that use CHK or MOVEP Instructions.
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:About the doc on the second link. My Core use no prefetch. My Core use classical Fetch/Execute last - :Decode - Fetch next/Execute - order.
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:Thats why most Instrucions can execute in 2 clocks. The Bus wrapper expand this to 4 clocks.
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:But for the minimig is the prefetch not so important. The core is fast enough to decode the opcode between as=high. So the timing is the same as the 68000 timing.
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:On my DE2 Board with a real MC68EC000 and running ANARCHY1 DEMO I can see some rendering error but with the softcore I can not.
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:I dont know what happens but I think my core has a high Betatested Level. (Upss I hope you can understood my - sorry for my poor english)
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:OPCODE 0x0F0E MOVEP.W ..... My Validator stop here.
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[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41728&forum=8#forumpost484540 billt  071126 15:57]
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Simulators
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: http://www.symphonyeda.com/proddownloads.htm
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: http://ghdl.free.fr/
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: http://freehdl.seul.org/
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[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41728&forum=8#forumpost484540 alexh 071126 16:14]
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There are some subtle undocumented 68k behaviour that you might be interested in:
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:http://www.trzy.org/files/68knotes.txt
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:http://pasti.fxatari.com/68kdocs/
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Testdisc known to be sensitive to 68000 incompatibility: http://amiga.nvg.org/warlock/adf/b/Birk+Sundell/100C64Tunes.adf.gz

Revision as of 12:12, 26 November 2007

Is there a "soft core" m68k for FPGAs?

Haveing the cpu in vhdl/verilog would allow to eliminate the need for a special Minimig board. And being able to use plain developer boards from Xilinx or other manufactors.

Have you seen the discussion at Open Cores?

The most finished 68000 in VHDL I know of is from the Atari ST in VHDL: Suska project : 68000 IP v2K7A

Would it make any sense to replace the "FPGA chip + CPU chip" on the current Minimig, with a single-chip "FPGA + CPU chip" device? --DavidCary 21:28, 28 July 2007 (PDT)

TobiFlex 070826 13:39
This CPU Core is not finish. The Debuging must go on. Currently hangs up this CPU Core with Kickstartrom 2.04 at #$F81914.

TobiFlex 070826 14:06
I have adapted the minimig Core to the DE2 Board from Terasic with a ALTERA Cyclone 2C35. With an external CPU MC68HC000 runs the Minimig perfekt. I have change the RAM Timing from SRAM to SDRAM - so i can use the on Board SDRAM Chip. And now i use the Board to Debug Wolfgangs 68K Core.

mongo 070826 20:25
Wolfgang's 68K core will run up to about 17 MHz in a Spartan 3.

jkonstan 070826 21:23
external CBT16245 level shifters

TobiFlex 071126 13:49

TobiFlex releases his TG68 MC68000 project source code in VHDL. With a size of 3000 lines.
"The Kernal is 2x-3x faster then the 68000 with the same clock and you can clock them with 28MHz.

I think it is possible to make the minimig 8x-12x faster then the original."

Is there any attempt to make the instruction timings the same as the original 68k?
Most of the byte and word instructions are exact. Long and mulu/divu/rotation instructions are faster.
The MC68EC000 is different from the 68000. I have my Core let run against a real MC68HC000 and can not :find software differences when the Kickstart or some programms are running. So I know all importand :Instructions works correct. About never used Instructions I can not say anything.
Example: I have found no program for the AMIGA that use CHK or MOVEP Instructions.
About the doc on the second link. My Core use no prefetch. My Core use classical Fetch/Execute last - :Decode - Fetch next/Execute - order.
Thats why most Instrucions can execute in 2 clocks. The Bus wrapper expand this to 4 clocks.
But for the minimig is the prefetch not so important. The core is fast enough to decode the opcode between as=high. So the timing is the same as the 68000 timing.
On my DE2 Board with a real MC68EC000 and running ANARCHY1 DEMO I can see some rendering error but with the softcore I can not.
I dont know what happens but I think my core has a high Betatested Level. (Upss I hope you can understood my - sorry for my poor english)
OPCODE 0x0F0E MOVEP.W ..... My Validator stop here.

billt 071126 15:57 Simulators

http://www.symphonyeda.com/proddownloads.htm
http://ghdl.free.fr/
http://freehdl.seul.org/


alexh 071126 16:14 There are some subtle undocumented 68k behaviour that you might be interested in:

http://www.trzy.org/files/68knotes.txt
http://pasti.fxatari.com/68kdocs/

Testdisc known to be sensitive to 68000 incompatibility: http://amiga.nvg.org/warlock/adf/b/Birk+Sundell/100C64Tunes.adf.gz

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